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 Post subject: Permanent Latex Skin: Ill advised for these reasons.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:48 pm 
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I'm a skin care specialist and makeup artist, and I have seen many people around these forums mentioning their desire for a permanent latex skin. This is not a feasible idea for several reasons:


1. People who are frequently exposed to latex or rubber are at an increased risk of developing an allergy to it. Between 10-20 percent of people regularly exposed to latex on their hands will develop an allergy. With continued exposure the victim may go into systemic anaphylactic shock. The risk is increased with more body exposed to latex.

2. Latex is destroyed by oil, the human body is covered in hair follicles which have sebaceous glands attached which produce oil daily. Full body latex will eventually be "eaten" by these oils.

3. Latex contains ammonia and drying liquid latex releases a great amount of it, making it unsuitable for near the genitals, eyes and mouth, as well openings for eyes and mouth would be prone to cause poor fit and gapping.

4. Latex also contains a number of toxic chemicals and prolonged full body contact would likely result in illness.

5. Prolonged pressure/friction on the skin (both of which the skin/suit would cause) causes sores to develop which if left untreated can penetrate deep into the tissue

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 Post subject: Re: Permanent Latex Skin: Ill advised for these reasons.
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Wow! This is a really good bit of info! I never really knew this sort of thing! Thanks for elaborating before someone got really hurt!

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 Post subject: Re: Permanent Latex Skin: Ill advised for these reasons.
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what you mention is true to an extent but, is also rare. I have worked in the medical field for nearly 25 years and have not known one co-work who has had a reaction to latex. But, there are different types of latex. What makes them different is how they are made. Some are made from the rubber tree sap and others are now made cemicaly.

I once had a close friend use liquid latex to coat me with a thin layer but, thick enough as to not break easly. I was covered from head to toes for 24 hours. I felt good and I had no reactions or issues. I am not saying that one can not have issues or a reaction. But, I feel if done correctly one will do ok. This is were research comes in. You should always do your homework and experiement a little with a friend first to make sure there will be no issues.

The biggest medical issue with full body coverage is over heating.

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 Post subject: Re: Permanent Latex Skin: Ill advised for these reasons.
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SweetAngieDoll wrote:
what you mention is true to an extent but, is also rare. I have worked in the medical field for nearly 25 years and have not known one co-work who has had a reaction to latex.

I would say your experience is unusual. Most people working in the healthcare field are aware of and have experience of this. ClockworkDemon's figures may be slightly overstating the problem.....it is relatively rare, in statistical terms, but still a significant issue. Sensitisation through cumulative exposure to natural rubber latex occurs in a significant number of cases, and almost always becomes more serious with continued exposure.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/latex/about.htm

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Months or even years of exposure without symptoms may precede onset of clinical symptoms of Type 1 NRL allergy. In many cases symptoms become progressively more severe on repeated exposure to NRL allergens, so it is important for sensitised individuals to avoid further contact with NRL proteins.

The absence of a reaction previously does not guarantee there will be no reaction in the future, and the greater the exposure, the greater the risk of developing sensitivity. It's not a matter of 'doing it correctly', or experimenting to check there will be no issues.....it is important to be aware that there may be issues regardless, and weighing the risks against the benefits.

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 Post subject: Re: Permanent Latex Skin: Ill advised for these reasons.
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SweetAngieDoll wrote:
what you mention is true to an extent but, is also rare. I have worked in the medical field for nearly 25 years and have not known one co-work who has had a reaction to latex. But, there are different types of latex. What makes them different is how they are made. Some are made from the rubber tree sap and others are now made cemicaly.

I once had a close friend use liquid latex to coat me with a thin layer but, thick enough as to not break easly. I was covered from head to toes for 24 hours. I felt good and I had no reactions or issues. I am not saying that one can not have issues or a reaction. But, I feel if done correctly one will do ok. This is were research comes in. You should always do your homework and experiement a little with a friend first to make sure there will be no issues.

The biggest medical issue with full body coverage is over heating.


You forget the lesions from pressure, and water build up, 24 hours is awhile, but is also far from permanent. A layer of latex creates friction on the skin, creating eventual bedsore like lesions. Latex also does not "breathe* thereby not allowing trapped oil and sweat to escape which would eventually after weeks of use create weakened epidermis and bacterial build up.


Not to mention that oil still eats latex and your skin produces oil.

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 Post subject: Re: Permanent Latex Skin: Ill advised for these reasons.
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I am not saying what was posted is false. I am saying that it is more of a dramatic case or an example of the more sever case. I have spoke to many who have played in this field and have found only a very small number who have had major issues like you outline.

It seems the thinner the layer is the less issue with friction. I did ask a doctor at work about the bacteria and he stated that it could develope in the poors but, you would have to have bacteria present first. So, if you cleaned and disenfect your skin very well first, then you would greatly reduce the risk. Remember that the latex would be clinging to the skin so, there would be no gab.

Not all latex breaks down from oil and some that do are not effected by human body oils. Just like there are different types of latex rubber, there are different types of oils. Patrolium oil is the only oil that will break down all types of latex and most rubber products.

Yes, there are risk but, there are risk just from getting out of bed and risk with ALL fetishes. But, if someone understands the risk and are still willing to do it on a permanent bases, then more power to them I say. As long as what they are doing is not harming others then I feel it is their right to do it.

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 Post subject: Re: Permanent Latex Skin: Ill advised for these reasons.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:05 am 
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Open sores would eventually occur under any truly permanent latex skin after a period of time. I'm a skin care specialist, I've worked with doctors, trust me on this.

I'm not advising against wearing latex suits/masks/etc but I'm saying a "latex skin" that is worn for months is not a safe idea, and not a feasible idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Permanent Latex Skin: Ill advised for these reasons.
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How about using stage latex? This can be found at any horror supply store. But, I was also reading on how to make a Mermaid tail, or naga tail using this techinque maybe it can be used in Dollification.

Obtain a lycra cat suit, or body suit, then apply the latex to the fabric, while wearing it. This way you get the body contours.


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 Post subject: Re: Permanent Latex Skin: Ill advised for these reasons.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:22 am 
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That's an option, but it's not permanent it'd still need to be taken off every day for an hour or so.

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 Post subject: Re: Permanent Latex Skin: Ill advised for these reasons.
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thats why i was interested in the fetishistic possibilities of hypnosis.

also i've now been wearing latex for some time most days and have only had a few reactions and those were from latex from China.

i have been in contact with 2-3 long term latex addicts and they have a skin cleaning and moisturising regimes.

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dRAGON SKIN MAKES A WONDERFUL SILICONE i HAVE USED FOR BODY CASTING AND COVERING LARGE AREAS ;)


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